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Super Responsibilities

Started by JacksonHole
over 13 years ago
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What are the responsbilities for a live in super in a coop? What is he/she suppose to be working on vs what is the tenants responsibility?
Response by sma10022
over 13 years ago
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Your question is a bit vague to answer. Details?

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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You mean what does the super repair inside your co-op apt?

The board and managing agent will say the building is only responsible for repairs inside the walls, from the wall out into your apt is your responsibility.
The pipe system is part of the inside the walls, so leaks, clogged drains are things he should fix especially since it can cause problems in surrounding apts.
He should investigate ventilation problems, gas line problems.

However the super will do/fix anything in the co-op board members' apts. that they ask for. Not that they will admit it.

e-mail your repair requests to the managing agent.

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Response by noobienoob
over 13 years ago
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i have ceiling work and plaster problems because the radiator from the tenant upstairs was leaking. i'm a rental in a coop. is this something the super will take care of, or is it something i need to fix?

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Response by JacksonHole
over 13 years ago
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Thanks.....sma10022..just wanted to know what the day to day responsibilities are for a live in coop super .....and also, what are they not allowed to fix for shareholders...ie toilet backup, etc?

Truth.....if its basically clogged drains, leaks, etc.....is a fulltime live in super really busy or lots of down time?

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Response by sma10022
over 13 years ago
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I live in a large coop, 420 apartments, so we have a large staff. The Super manages them but is also 'hands on' as needed.
You have all your usual clogged drains etc but also monitoring of boiler, steam traps and other mechanicals. Our staff unclogs toilets, hangs mirrors/art, replaces lighting fixtures and outlets etc.
Some jobs are billed to the shareholder.
Hope this helps.

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Response by ab_11218
over 13 years ago
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the super usually:
1 - manages the porters and helps them whenever necessary.
2 - ensures the boiler/water heater function properly.
3 - does minor/major repairs in apartments (depending on coop/rental the responsibilities can vary)
4 - does some cleaning that is outside the scope of the porters (shampooing rugs, waxing or scraping floors).
5 - calls in contractors to do plumbing/electric/elevator/etc that is beyond his abilities.

everything depends on the scope setup when they got the job.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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The super vs. tenant responsibility is for what he does in your spt but not the entire building.
Supers deal with building renovation/repairs to the building.
Inspectors for elevators and other building inspections
Move-ins/move/outs
Emergencies (which is why a live-in super is better than one that leaves for the day/weekend/holiday and doesn't answer his cell-phone.)
If a resident drops dead in their apt, usually the super is called after they haven't been seen for awhile, relatives call for him to go up and check, neighbors say: "What stinks up here in the hall?"
They surpervise the staff
things like that.

They have a lot of downtime, as far as I have seen (and I'm home during the day)
the staff gets ordered by the super to do most things.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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In some buildings the super will do what what ab and sma describe.
Those are in the buildings with good managers.

DO NOT ever allow the super to say : "well, that toilet, tub, (whatever) needs a plumber. I'll call the building's plumber to come in to fix it."

If it needs a plumber -- YOU call a plumber.
Because never mind the kickback the super receives from his friend the plumber, the managing agent will bill the cost of the repair back to you. It will be expensive. You won't know what the plumber did or did not do (unless you are home, even then, the super will back-up the charges saying those repairs/parts were needed and used.)

So if you can't be at home, at least get a friend to be there.

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Response by RealEstateNY
over 13 years ago
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I find that if you tip the super, he will do just about anything and save you a lot of money rather then calling plumbers and electricians. In all the years we've been in live-in super condos and co-ops I can't ever recall having to call an outside service for standard repairs, like paint, plaster, clogged drains, replacing faucets, repairing the toilet mechanisisms, replacing interior doors, replacing bathroom ceilings, replacing switches, outlets, light fixturexs,replacing medicine cabinets, etc.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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That's nice that you have a good super,RENY.

Tipping the super does not mean that he knows what he's doing.
and the op may find that other shareholders are not getting the same services.
That's not supposed to happen in a co-op.

It's better to call a real service pro. You are going to pay for it anyway.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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RENY: replacing bathroom ceiling? Really?
Didn't that entail providing the managing agent with a signed form?
No? a ha!

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Response by RealEstateNY
over 13 years ago
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Heck I've know supers who would put in full kitchens.

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Response by JacksonHole
over 13 years ago
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I guess its a great gig (if truly there is a lot of downtime) since many have 2 bedroom apts and decent salaries.....

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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RENY: That super of yours and the others who put in full kitchens (would? did they or not?) must have lots of downtime. Replacing a ceiling isn't a lunch-hour type of job.

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Response by Anonymous2013
over 10 years ago
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The dogs in our building are out of control. Someone complained of dog poop on the stairwell being left there for 3 days. Is it the (live-in) super's responsibility to clean that up?

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Response by NWT
over 10 years ago
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Yes. Either do it himself or have the porter do it.

On the other hand, a building where a tenant or owner lets a dog shit on the stairs gets the super it deserves.

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Response by gothamsboro
over 10 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2013

Anonymous2013, what neighborhood is this in?

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Response by northsouth
over 10 years ago
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As economists are want to say, there are no bad people, only bad incentives. The reason a super can charge less than a tradesperson is because he has no transportation costs, rent overhead, taxes, etc. When a super acts as a contractor during normal business hours, he does so at the expense of the building's upkeep, devaluing the maintenance payments of the residents. There is no "downtime" for Manhattan buildings -- cleaning and sweeping and waxing and sidewalk washing, basement improvements, etc. etc. can and should be part of the management work scope and in their absence lurks malfeasance. Buildings should always be getting incrementally better, not deteriorating because of lack of forward thinking and acting. Too often, supers are incentivized by residents who dangle cash and don't realize how their neighbors are not being served. That the cash is less than a legitimate trade person makes it SUBSIDIZED by everyone's maintenance, especially hurting the residents on fixed incomes who can't afford upgrades..

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