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Should we get an inspection?

Started by redpanda
over 12 years ago
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We are in contract to buy an apt in a condo conversion where the entire building was gutted (except exterior walls & floors) and redone. Should we hire an inspector and if so, for the walk-through only or to look at the building itself, too?
Response by Guywithcat
over 12 years ago
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no one regrets hiring an inspector!

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Response by scarednycgal
over 12 years ago
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Make sure it's a good inspector....a lot of them miss stuff

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Response by Ottawanyc
over 12 years ago
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I never understand the inspector for a condo. If it a few years old most of the problems would have come out. Otherwise, it is likely that the appliances and what not may be screwy. I personally like to read (myself) the board minutes.

But then, a few hundred bucks may buy you peace of mind.

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Response by aboutready
over 12 years ago
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A lot of the boards don't have much info in the minutes, particularly for the smaller buildings. If it's a few years old and the board hasn't been incompetent then they likely have dealt with the developer at least to some extent. Our seller outright lied (in the contract) and said there were no assessments pending when one had been approved (leaking issues) before he put the unit on the market. The engineer (not inspector) we hired, highly recommended, said everything was fine BUT he was the one hired by our condo association to provide the report which was used against the developers and he never revealed that to us or our attorney. We're only out of pocket a couple of thousand, but I could imagine much worse scenarios now that I've been through this process.

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Response by fieldschester
over 12 years ago
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AR, are you suing? Between the lying seller and the fellow owners who were behind on the mortgage, maybe you should be a renter?

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Response by aboutready
over 12 years ago
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An argument could be made, both for renting and suing. But no. Thus far I only take part In law suits in which I am named as a party by others.

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Response by aboutready
over 12 years ago
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The fellow owners behind on the mortgage is not an issue. The foreclosed property is on the market, with no such indication, at a very much non-discounted price. Sometimes an inflated market helps, sometimes it hurts. Winners and losers, which one will you be today?

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Response by fieldschester
over 12 years ago
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I'm going to be a winner today, but it's 9:30, and tomorrow if Friday the 13th, so

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Response by matsonjones
over 12 years ago
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I always have a terrific building inspector thoroughly review any unit (co-op or condo) from top to bottom before any contract is signed. It's the best peace of mind one can buy before contractually committing to purchase.

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Response by cdrm1980
over 12 years ago
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I would have the inspection done (unit and building, especially the facade), especially if it's a new conversion (not sure from the OP if that's the situation here). I can think of two newer conversions where serious defects were not caught and that have resulted in severe water intrusion and litigation. Please google Arris Loft condos in Long Island City (converted factory) and 2056 Fifth Avenue in Harlem (converted church rectory). Both of thsse buildings suffer from water intrusion and the owners in each have filed suit against the sponsor.

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Response by front_porch
over 12 years ago
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I can think of a condo conversion I've steered buyer clients away because of facade problems -- and another one that my boss hates. If you think you're broker can't or wouldn't flag something like that, then yes, hire an inspector. Cost is minimal compared to the hassle of a leaky building.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by redpanda
over 12 years ago
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Thanks everyone for the responses, I've decided to hire an inspector. Sorry I wasn't clear, we are buying into a new conversion that is still under construction and we will be the first to live in our unit.

cdrm1980 & Ali R. - I am going to google Arris & 2056 5th, but am wondering what kind of facade issues would be specific to (assuming they are specific to) a conversion? The exterior is one of the few things that is not changing about the building so wouldn't any facade problems be unrelated to the conversion? Having said that, the windows are new and maybe there could be leakage issues if they are not properly installed.?

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Response by front_porch
over 12 years ago
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I'm thinking more that the standard for watertightness goes up for a residence -- if you have a building that serves as a warehouse or factory, and all the machinery's in the middle, you might not care greatly about minor window/wall water leaks, whereas if you have a couch or a painting over by that edge, you care deeply.

ali

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Response by nyc_apt_buyer
over 12 years ago
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A good inspector should be able to comment on the facade's stone-work and give you a feel for any work needed (think monthly assessments, or depletion of condo reserves). We walked away from a condo purchase based on such feedback. 12 months later (and for a year since), that building's been covered in scaffolding. Also, get a contractor with an infra-red camera to check for dampness (in shower, on roof deck, etc.). $500 is good value for the peace of mind.

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Response by redpanda
over 12 years ago
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Ali & nyc apt buyer - thank you for the advice.

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