Anyone think Sunset Park will become a desirable neighborhood? Several Coop residents I know say it will be gentrified within 10 years but I don't think they're being realistic. By gentrifier, I mean, anyone who speaks English, has higher education, likes a mix of - nice restaurants, convenient amenities, whole foods like grocery options and other nice shopping options, and, who value safety,... [more]
Anyone think Sunset Park will become a desirable neighborhood? Several Coop residents I know say it will be gentrified within 10 years but I don't think they're being realistic.
By gentrifier, I mean, anyone who speaks English, has higher education, likes a mix of - nice restaurants, convenient amenities, whole foods like grocery options and other nice shopping options, and, who value safety, civic duty, hygiene, historic neighborhood preservation over shoddy new construction, etc.
The Chinese and Hispanic residents are entrenched and already have what they want on 5th and 8th avenues.
Some Hispanics will sell or be priced out but less so for Chinese.
I see the waterfront eventually becoming a desirable place, but the rest I don't see changing drastically.
I'm interested to hear what you think.
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Response by JJ2
almost 10 years ago
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I think it will be gentrified in 20 years
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Response by jelj13
almost 10 years ago
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I agree with JJ2. This neighborhood just went through a mass immigration of Chinese (AFTER the Hispanics). The next neighborhood over, towards the Verrazzano, is Bay Ridge, now a predominately Arab neighborhood.
The "gentrification" has followed a pattern: Brooklyn Heights to Boerum Hill to Cobble Hill to Sunset Park to Bay Ridge between the late 1800's to the mid 1900's. Each was relatively rural. Except for Brooklyn Heights, each neighborhood went downhill as the next neighborhood "over" was developed. Now Boerum Hill and Cobble Hill have been "rediscovered". Actually I moved to Boerum Hill in the 1970's when it was considered on the verge of gentrification. (I left when I found a dead body doubled over in the garbage can on my corner; drug dealer who cheated.) It's take 40 years for that to happen. LIVED IN BROOKLYN FOR 32 YEARS! When I left in the late '70's, Sunset Park was supposed to be the "next find". Not happening yet.
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Response by hk718
almost 10 years ago
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>>By gentrifier, I mean, anyone who speaks English, has higher education, likes a mix of - nice restaurants, convenient amenities, whole foods like grocery options and other nice shopping options, and, who value safety, civic duty, hygiene, historic neighborhood preservation over shoddy new construction, etc.
Ignorant.
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Response by sgsg
almost 10 years ago
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>> Ignorant
Of what?
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Response by KeithBurkhardt
almost 10 years ago
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It is certainly on it's way to changing as so much of accessible Brooklyn has become un-affordable. I don't think you can compare NYC of the 70's/80's to the NYC of the last 14 years. The entire dynamic has changed as people are making long term commitments to living here. Previously most stuck around 5-7 years got their fill and moved on. Today buyers purchase a condo/co-op with the same mentality that one buys a home in the burbs, thinking long term, schools, commute etc. In the 70's, 80's very few newcomers moved to Brooklyn/Queens, they settled in Manhattan. The outer boroughs were neighborhoods where people were born and raised and stayed for generations...moving to "the city" was a glamorous dream or else just not desired. These were (still are) great neighborhoods, I remember visiting relatives in Flushing and Carroll Gardens in the 70's as a kid. Buy in Sunset Park if you like the area, commute makes sense and hold on to it for 7-10 years. I bet you do pretty good, however liking where you live is a big part of the equation. If you wake up one morning and you can buy an $8 dollar pour over or the next version of "hipster" is waiting for the same train as you; you may have made a few pesos on your purchase :)
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I think it will be gentrified in 20 years
I agree with JJ2. This neighborhood just went through a mass immigration of Chinese (AFTER the Hispanics). The next neighborhood over, towards the Verrazzano, is Bay Ridge, now a predominately Arab neighborhood.
The "gentrification" has followed a pattern: Brooklyn Heights to Boerum Hill to Cobble Hill to Sunset Park to Bay Ridge between the late 1800's to the mid 1900's. Each was relatively rural. Except for Brooklyn Heights, each neighborhood went downhill as the next neighborhood "over" was developed. Now Boerum Hill and Cobble Hill have been "rediscovered". Actually I moved to Boerum Hill in the 1970's when it was considered on the verge of gentrification. (I left when I found a dead body doubled over in the garbage can on my corner; drug dealer who cheated.) It's take 40 years for that to happen. LIVED IN BROOKLYN FOR 32 YEARS! When I left in the late '70's, Sunset Park was supposed to be the "next find". Not happening yet.
>>By gentrifier, I mean, anyone who speaks English, has higher education, likes a mix of - nice restaurants, convenient amenities, whole foods like grocery options and other nice shopping options, and, who value safety, civic duty, hygiene, historic neighborhood preservation over shoddy new construction, etc.
Ignorant.
>> Ignorant
Of what?
It is certainly on it's way to changing as so much of accessible Brooklyn has become un-affordable. I don't think you can compare NYC of the 70's/80's to the NYC of the last 14 years. The entire dynamic has changed as people are making long term commitments to living here. Previously most stuck around 5-7 years got their fill and moved on. Today buyers purchase a condo/co-op with the same mentality that one buys a home in the burbs, thinking long term, schools, commute etc. In the 70's, 80's very few newcomers moved to Brooklyn/Queens, they settled in Manhattan. The outer boroughs were neighborhoods where people were born and raised and stayed for generations...moving to "the city" was a glamorous dream or else just not desired. These were (still are) great neighborhoods, I remember visiting relatives in Flushing and Carroll Gardens in the 70's as a kid. Buy in Sunset Park if you like the area, commute makes sense and hold on to it for 7-10 years. I bet you do pretty good, however liking where you live is a big part of the equation. If you wake up one morning and you can buy an $8 dollar pour over or the next version of "hipster" is waiting for the same train as you; you may have made a few pesos on your purchase :)
Keith Burkhardt
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How is the market in this neighborhood ?