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Bloomberg: Jumbo Loan Defaults Rise at Fast Pace as Rich Suffer

Started by Topper
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aXQyhJ_n2Nqs Jumbo Loan Defaults Rise at Fast Pace as Rich Suffer By Bob Ivry Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Luxury homeowners are falling behind on mortgage payments at the fastest pace in more than 15 years, a sign the U.S. financial crisis that began with the poorest Americans has reached the wealthiest. About 2.57 percent of prime borrowers... [more]
Response by type3secretion
over 17 years ago
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you "topped" my thread, topper
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/8667-jumbo-loan-defaults-rise-at-fast-pace

but it would be interesting to hear people weigh in on this, whichever thread

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Response by Topper
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Oops. Sorry!

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Response by nyc10022
over 17 years ago
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wait, what happened to that whole "NYC isn't subprime" thing?

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Response by Topper
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Just to perhaps state the obvious, I would guess that a very large percentage of all New York real estate transactions require jumbo loans.

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Response by tina24hour
over 17 years ago
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I like this:
"Raymond Young bought his lakeside home in Miami four years ago for $2 million cash and in 2006 took out a $1.4 million jumbo mortgage to pay for a real estate venture in Texas. Now, with home prices in his area down 40 percent from their 2006 peak, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Index, Young needs to refinance because the Texas investment isn’t paying off and his income has dried up. He can’t find a bank to help."

Raymond Young is not a homeowner. Raymond Young is an investor. It's interesting that the only owner they quote is also a speculator.

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Response by type3secretion
over 17 years ago
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"Raymond Young is not a homeowner. Raymond Young is an investor. It's interesting that the only owner they quote is also a speculator."

Yet there were so many people speculating in the bubble. A lot of people were looking for the Big Flip.

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Response by tina24hour
over 17 years ago
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Right. From Obama's speech this week:
"But I also want to be very clear about what this plan will not do: It will not rescue the unscrupulous or irresponsible by throwing good taxpayer money after bad loans. It will not help speculators who took risky bets on a rising market and bought homes not to live in but to sell."

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Response by nyc10022
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"Raymond Young is not a homeowner. Raymond Young is an investor. It's interesting that the only owner they quote is also a speculator."

In the bubble we had, I'd venture to say that few buyers weren't at least pretending to be investors, even if they were planning to live there.

You couldn't justify prices on the comparable rent equation, so they had to be factoring in appreciation. They were attempting to invest.

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