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AIG - That Sucking Sound (remember Perot) is the sound of $170 billion federal dollars being sent abroad

Started by bsc
over 17 years ago
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Anyone wonder why the Department of the Treasury has refused to tell the American people who the 10 biggest recipients of the AIG bailout are? Rumor has it, of the 10 biggest counterparties, the the biggest are Goldman Sachs (aka Government Sachs), Societe Generale and Deutsche Bank (upwards of $7 billion each). Each is a foreign bank or likely to send it offshore. Your government in action.
Response by uptowngal
over 17 years ago
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The reason is because disclosing this may kick off a series of large sell-offs and bank runs for institutions that are otherwise solvent. And the info is confidential to these counterparties.

AIG's counterparty risk exposure was so large (larger than Lehman's), that a bankruptcy would trigger off a catastrophic meltdown.

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Response by akallabeth
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Response by bsc
over 17 years ago
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So what happenned to counterparty risk? Isn't that the point? The lucky 10 should have bought credit default swaps on AIG. It other areas of the insurance world its called "reinsurance" you lay off second loss pieces on entities with reserves to absorb the losses not the federal government. FYI, I am not convinced by the mantra of systemic risk, I think it will just leave us all with less money when we can no longer choose rescue them. Just good money after bad.

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Response by uptowngal
over 17 years ago
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I'm not arguing either way, pro or con, just stating the rationale as I understand it.

Would be interesting to find out if anyone was offering a CDS on AIG, and how they're faring. Anyone know?

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